The John Messer Rotary Scout Training Center

 
149 Plains Road
Raymond, Maine

The Training Center is a rustic lodge and conference center located across the road from Camp Hinds.

 

Facilities

 
Three separate rooms for meetings, dining, games or just relaxing in front of two grand fireplaces make the Training Center a great place for a change of pace trip.

Dormitory style bunk rooms and two private rooms have beds for about 50 persons. Bathrooms with showers and a full kitchen with service for 80, plus folding tables and chairs are all part of the lodge.

A great base for your unit or group when you're on a ski trip or visiting Maine, any time of the year. Scouting groups from the Pine Tree Council and all over New England have stayed here, using the lodge as a base for ski trips or on their way up Maine or to Canada.
Sports and religious groups have held retreats and getaways here. And family reunions and club get togethers have filled the place. Businesses have held meetings and seminars and schools have used the center for field trips and classrooms.
Adjacent to our largest scout camp, the lodge is a great location for hiking, nature walks, cross country skiing, canoeing and fishing.
Directions & Reservations

 
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Training Center History

 

Granite mining and granite 
block similar to that use in
Training Center foundation
By: Frank Maguire

A complete tour of our Training Center should include a look at the cellar of the barn, where you will see that the foundation consists of large pieces of cut granite; one of them extending under the side entrance is said to be sixty feet long. Where did the builders get such pieces of stone?  If you walk out behind the buildings and orient yourself in a northeasterly direction, facing Nubble Ledge, then walk a beeline for about a quarter mile you might come upon a jumble of giant boulders, remnants of the last glacier to pass this way.  Look among these rocks and you might see that some of them bear the marks of chisel and drill, and that some of them even hold rusted iron rods, left there when the builders quit splitting the rock well over one hundred years ago.  These are the source of the foundation, as well as the “fence” around the Raymond cemetery just down the road.  Imagine moving such monster rocks with nothing but manpower and oxen.

When the Camp Hinds property was purchased around 1926 the sale did not include the property on the north side of Plains Road, including the buildings associated with the Berry farm.  That land and structures remained in the hands of the Berry family, who conducted a summer business there called “Justanold House”, a rooming house for summer visitors who went swimming and boating at Crescent Lake.

After about twenty years the Pine Tree Council began to make plans for a year-round program at Camp Hinds, and saw that the Berry farm buildings and their six acres of land could be developed as a training center and a positive addition to the summer camp.  Negotiation resulted in an agreement to purchase that property for $7000, of which the council had raised $2000.  The balance was received as a gift from the Portland Rotary Club, whose name was enshrined on the new Center.

Training Center before renovations
Front of Training Center  before 
renovations
Work began soon after to improve the buildings, Fred Foster was hired as the permanent Camp Ranger, and the farm house became the living quarters for Fred and his wife, Doris.  Fred spent most of the following five years working on that property and supervising staff members and volunteers in remodeling the ell and barn.

The barn needed a major restoration, which included structural work, paneling both the Memorial Room and the training room, wide oak floors, the construction of the massive double fireplace in the center (financed in part by donations from many Boy Scout troops) and the remodeling of the large back half of the double barn into a training area downstairs and a double deck of sleeping lofts upstairs.

Around 1949, when the fireplaces were being built, a staff man drove his tractor into the front barn hauling a load of stones. Then he was shocked to feel the floor cave in under him, dropping the stones and tractor into the cellar! No one was hurt.

By 1951 the ell connecting the house and barn was completely removed and replaced with the new kitchen and dining rooms much as they are today.  Bathrooms were added to this addition and the cellar area was paved with asphalt, replacing the original dirt floor. It’s still dirt under the kitchen/dining section.

The original triple bunks in the Training Center were gifts of the US Navy, probably removed from troop ships after WW II.  The furniture for the training room was all made by the Pinelyne Company in Windham.

Training Room before renovations
Memorial Room after removations


Memorial Plaque

The Memorial theme was completed with the placing of plaques over the front fireplace commemorating the names of 105 former Scouts and Scouters who gave their lives in WW II.  That’s why it is called the “Memorial Room.” The troops which donated to the fireplace project were to be commemorated with a plaque above the back fireplace.

Improvements have been made over the years including a major upgrade in fire safety in the mid-seventies when Ralph Lawrence, a retired contractor, led volunteers in building two new enclosed stairwells, a back door to the training room, updated wiring and improved bathroom facilities.  Remodeling the Training Center drove him crazy, because nothing was plumb or level to begin with.

The bathrooms were updated again and a handicap ramp added in the late nineties, the kitchen was upgraded and new heat-saving windows were installed throughout the building.

One other note: the small garage next to the Training Center was originally a staff cabin in camp located near the dining hall.  It was jacked up and rolled by truck to its present site to house the camp truck and shelter the well which was under that building.. Look carefully on the interior walls and you can still see the names of some of the staff members who once slept there!

 

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